Comments on: Climate action is crucial to Australia’s standing in the Pacific https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/ On politics, media, business, the environment and life Fri, 30 Aug 2024 04:09:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.5 By: gerryinoz https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-749135 Fri, 30 Aug 2024 04:09:31 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-749135 In reply to drsmithy.

It will be because the alternative is too horrible to allow. Old monsters like Trump are the biggest threat because they have no empathy and just don’t care.

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By: gerryinoz https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-749130 Fri, 30 Aug 2024 04:04:04 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-749130 In reply to Rusty Nail.

We’re only a minnow so we”ll make as much as we can from our fossil fuels( well international corporations mainly) until the rest of the world catches up with us.

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By: drastic https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-748979 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 13:11:17 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-748979 Wishful thinking. 1.5°? Get a grip, some reality, please. I have no idea how many small Pacific nation citizens will be made homeless, but I’m willing to bet there’ll be many more Australians made homeless by the rising sea level. I appreciate this guy trying to salvage some sort of harmony with the neighbours, but the truth would serve better. They know it’s bs and so do I. Their only hope is to have open visas to Aus or similar place, not their first choice no doubt. Let’s face it, beach frontage is poison, world-wide.

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By: Roger Clifton https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-748971 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 12:25:28 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-748971 There is indeed a global consensus that we must eliminate all fossil fuels. However it is not so true of renewable energy, which can only reduce fossils. Instead there is a growing global consensus that we must convert to nuclear energy. It must be made plentiful, cheap and readily deployable by every country in the world.

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By: drsmithy https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-748948 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 11:06:17 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-748948 In reply to Peter Schulz.

The climate cares only about total emissions. Per capita is irrelevant.

This is not to say Australia should not try and improve its emissions, but the simple reality is that climate change is either going to be limited by mostly China, America and India, or not at all.

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By: Roger Clifton https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-748944 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:53:57 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-748944 In reply to Peter Schulz.

Thank you for using figures. Numerical measurements allow us to set goals, make comparisons and check facts. You risk the ire of many of the faithful who would prefer that you chant slogans instead.

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By: Peter Schulz https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-748930 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:01:13 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-748930 “Australia’s long-held strategic interest (is) in denying access to the South Pacific for powers with interests different to Australia’s.”

Why is there this automatic assumption that China’s interests are different to ours in a way that India’s, Indonesia’s or the USA’s aren’t? Only because the USA tells us they are, and we believe them.

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By: Peter Schulz https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-748926 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 09:55:05 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-748926 In reply to Rusty Nail.

China’s 2018 carbon emissions = 8.4 tonnes per person.
Australia’s 2018 carbon emissions = 24.79 tonnes per person.

And those figures ignore the climate debt the rich Western countries owe the rest of the world because the dangerous levels of carbon dioxide and methane in the atmosphere at the moment have historically been produced by the developed countries.

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By: Michael Smith https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-748849 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 06:14:34 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-748849 Our politicians ambitions are too closely intertwined with the fossil fuel people to ever do anything substantial for our Pacific neighbours. When their countries are eventually submerged they will come to us as refugees and we will lock them up somewhere. It will have to be in a desert somewhere given all our current offshore detention centres will be under water.

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By: Rusty Nail https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/28/pacific-islands-security-china-climate-change/#comment-748845 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 06:03:47 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172124#comment-748845 Climate change — not China — the region’s key threat Dr Wes – the Chinese are the greatest threat to climate change – surely that’s easy rhumb line to draw? The difference Australia will make to global climate change is paltry – perhaps some international diplomacy from Ms Wong can weduce the Chinese and their wrongs…..

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